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Oprah November, 1998 - Part 1

OPRAH:
[Talking to the audience before Brad came out]  We feelin' kinda peetty..... I have never - you all don't know this, back in the control room, we can see all of you guys back there. I have never seen the likes of the primping that's gone on here today. [shows clip of every woman in audience applying makeup and combing their hair] I don't know what it is? You think this is going to be your day. [much laughing] I understand. This happened to me. I had actually met our guest today. I was in an elevator in the Four Seasons. One of those days I had my hair braided and I looked like Buckwheat, one was sticking out (hair), and I look up, and there he was in the elevator. I had to like face the wall. [Laughing]

[commerical break]

OPRAH:
Everybody is very excited Brad cause, cause they just saw the movie.

BRAD:
Excellant!

OPRAH:
They just saw the movie, great movie, so let’s talk about the movie first, we will ofcourse move on to other things. Let’s talk about the movie. The premise of the movie, that you are some other world character.

BRAD:
That’s right. I am playing death, right, so uh… Well you guys have seen it but uh…

OPRAH:
He is playing death, for everybody else out there, who’s gonna be seeing it.

BRAD:
That’s right and uh there’s just uh no one I can interview uh get any research, so yea I felt a little lost in the beginning but uh…

OPRAH:
Was it exciting to be with Anthony Hopkins again?

BRAD:
He’s a stud isn’t he? Excellent.

OPRAH:
He’s a stud.

BRAD:
I was backstage, and Oprah goes: “I can watch that man read the newspaper”.

OPRAH:
Yeah, and then I said to Brad: “Like to interview him one day, just to have him sit and read the paper”. He is incredible.

BRAD:
He’s incredible, he’s one of the greatest actors we have, he’s Brando, he’s Olivier, he’s all that.

OPRAH:
All of that and we get to see them together! But you know…

BRAD:
Wanna hear my Tony Hopkins impression? Okay it is mediocre…”There will be no more talk about war in this house, damnit!”

[Audience laughs]

OPRAH:
That’s better than mediocre. Okay in Meet Joe Black, which opens friday the 13th, Brad plays death, it’s a very good-looking death, uh if death has to come for ya, you’d like him to be in that package. Uh anyway. In this scene- which takes place early in the movie- Brad’s kinda boyish charm melts the heart of co-star. Is she fabulous or what?

BRAD:
Yeah, she’s lovely.

OPRAH:
Claire Forlani, wasn’t she wonderful? She is. Take a look, this terrific… Don’t you love this scene, when they first meet in the coffee shop? I know it’s kinda thing in your lifetime, you wish somebody had some lines that were as good as these! Take a look, take a look.

[Shows clip from Meet Joe Black]

OPRAH:
Well… you never know. Okay. All right. So of all, would this be up there with your favorite movies?

BRAD:
It is for what it says, yes it is. For the experience and as far a full story and a fulfilling story, I would say, which you walk out with. Yea, I love what it says.

OPRAH:
Yeah, fills your heart, one of my favorite movies, however, is Legends Of The Fall honey. And Brad you were sensational in that. Take a look of few of his memorable scenes from Legends Of The Fall. It is a good thing to rent really!

[Shows several clips of Legends Of The Fall]

OPRAH:
Legends Of The Fall! Meet Joe Black… Now you seem pretty shy about all this Brad. Does it make you, does this, how does this whole fame train feel to you?

BRAD:
Oh it’s a mystery to me. Just a mystery.

OPRAH:
Is it?

BRAD:
I … on one hand I like it very much, on the other hand… you know, when it goes to the negative it gets in the way.

OPRAH:
Yeah, you know a person who’s known also, isn’t it the weirdest thing when you pick up the first magazine and there’s nothing but lies written about you?

BRAD:
Well yeah. It is a strange phenomenon.

OPRAH:
It is, isn’t it? And nobody ever gets it until it’s their name. Cause I have a best friend who’s always like “Oh but that, girl just let that roll off your back”.

BRAD:
Yeah right “What do you care?”

OPRAH:
Yeah “What do you care?” Until it’s your name!

BRAD:
Yeah, and it’s never right guys! It is never even close to the truth.

OPRAH:
Never!

BRAD:
I always wonder, who would want to write gossip as a living? When they go: “When I grow up, I would, I would love to write insipid silly little things about people, and print them!”

[Audience laughs]

BRAD:
I don’t understand that, the things are made very petty and very trivial and it’s not that way, it’s usually decent people who are not so, not as great as we are made out to be but, not as bad as we are made out to be. Just decent people who are trying to do the best they can, and find some out about lives. So…

OPRAH:
Yeah, the interesting thing too is, when do you decide, cause I know you sued -was it Playgirl you sued-…

BRAD:
Yeah… [Sticks out tongue, shows fists, makes funny face]

OPRAH:
…to sue or not to sue?

BRAD:
Well there have been an onside and it’s accumulate of a fact was trying to get to me and then when they actually got on private property, and took a moment, that I felt was very private… It’s a creepy, creepy feeling! It really is. I can’t explain it, it’s just a creepy feeling. And I decided that was crossing a line, it wasn’t right and, I’m going after them!

OPRAH:
So they took private photos of you…

BRAD:
Right.

OPRAH:
In a private moment…

BRAD:
Right.

OPRAH:
And like, where were they? In the bushes?

BRAD:
Yeah…

OPRAH:
Literally in the bushes?

BRAD:
In the bushes yeah, with a lens like this. [Spreading arms wide]. They could see right up your crack!

[Brad and the audience laugh]

OPRAH:
And I know everybody is like: “Oh well, if it’s Brad Pitt’s crack, okay”.

BRAD:
Oh no! [waving finger and nodding head]

OPRAH:
You should think about it for a moment, and gosh everybody who knows that if you’re a public figure then you know, certainly you’re exposed publically. But would you, each one of you right now, in your most private moment… I know those of you who have primped your way in here today. Would you have wanted, in your most private moment, naked this morning, if there was a hidden camera, and then suddenly open up a newspaper and there is your naked behind! How would you feel about…

BRAD:
It ain’t pretty!

BRAD:
I wanna teach them something. But you have to repeat after me all right? Gossip shows...

Audience:
[reciting like a first grade class] Gossip shows...

BRAD:
...and gossip columns…

Audience:
...and gossip columns…

BRAD:
...and gossip by mere definition...

Audience:
..and gossip by mere definition...

BRAD:
...is crap!

Audience:
...is crap!

OPRAH:
A lesson from Brad!

BRAD:
I’m gonna get slaughtered for the next few weeks. So be it, these guys are losers!

OPRAH:
The only good thing about Monica Lewinsky is that you think: “I’m not on there this week!” Oh she got a couple more weeks to go, that’s good.

OPRAH:
Next: What would Brad Pitt be doing if he wasn’t an actor, we find that out when we come back.

[Commerical break]

[Shows clip from Meet Joe Black]

OPRAH:
That is sweet. Meet Joe Black! Meet Joe Black, wonderful new movie with Brad Pitt, that opens this Friday. And Brad Pitt is here doing a rare interview, his first in front of an audience. Not only is Brad the number one most requested guest, his name seems to come up in various was on our show, when you least expect it, like this.

Clip from previous show featuring Bette Midler, Diane Keaton, and Goldie Hawn:

BETTE :
.....the woman was talking about Brad Pitt's butt. Now what do I got to say about Brad Pitt's butt? I never saw it. I wouldn't wanna invade Brad Pitt's privacy. What's it to me? He's got a beautiful face, and he's a really good actor. He was fantastic in Thelma & Louise. I thought 'this boy has it. He's going to be a star.

GOLDIE:
He could be our child...

OPRAH:
Who's child?

DIANE:
Oh my God! I hadn't thought of that.

BETTE :
What a thing to say!

GOLDIE:
We're talking about a young man who could be our child. How old is Brad Pitt?

OPRAH:
I don't know. I think 29 or 30

GOLDIE:
Oh, he's that old? Oh well...[Smiling in that goofy Goldie way]

DIANE or BETTE:
He couldn't possibly be our child.

GOLDIE:
I feel better now.

OPRAH:
Okay, that ofcourse was Bette, Goldie and Diane Keaton talking about Brad Pitt…

BRAD:
…and his butt. [Looking embarrassed]

OPRAH:
And his butt. Does that embarrass you? I mean…

BRAD:
Yeah

OPRAH:
That does?

BRAD:
No it’s all right. Have at it.

OPRAH:
Cause I’m wondering, when you have a real fine butt, why not just talk about it?

[audience howls, and claps hands]

BRAD:
“Hi, I’m Brad, I have a really nice ass”. [Shaking Oprah's hand]

OPRAH:
I know, but I can understand why if it it detracts from the work, than maybe it would be a problem. But it’s also part of the allure you know Brad.

BRAD:
Oh okay. [Laughs, looks embarrassed]

OPRAH:
I’m just telling the truth, cause you know, there are scenes that, in Meet Joe Black for example, when you guys are saying absolutely nothing. When -I don’t know where they have that camera, is it like on your forehead or, cause it’s some of the closest close-ups, I’ve ever seen. Where you are just really nice to look at and to look into your eyes. And what you both do with your eyes and those close-ups, by the time ya’ll finally hit that bed in the pool, I’m like: “Come one already!”

[Audience and Brad laughs]

OPRAH:
How long did that take?

BRAD:
What shooting? Or…or…

[Audience laughs]

BRAD:
Well I think Marty was more nervous than we were, cause he never shot a sexscene. SO it actually took us 4 days just to get to the bed.

OPRAH:
Really. Like the taking of the clothes?

BRAD:
Yeah, that little portion yeah.

OPRAH:
Took 4 days?

BRAD:
Yeah

[audience is silent, then laughs]

BRAD:
[Looking at audience] What???

OPRAH:
4 Days okay. Why? Cause he was trying to get you all to like…what?

BRAD:
Oh it was just a lot of coverage I think. It was just a little apprehension to actually have to get there and do “The deed”.

OPRAH:
Okay, now once you guys were right there on the bed… We have a clip of that scene…

BRAD:
Oh good… [Looking embarrassed again]

OPRAH:
…one you’re really there, really, curiously, I was like: “Where is the camera?” because, I mean, when that shot- where the faces are unbelievable- during that love scene, weren’t they…

BRAD:
The camera is right here. [Pointing to his forehead]

OPRAH:
The camera is right there

BRAD:
Right there.

OPRAH:
Right there, in your face, okay, good. I won’t ask you what you’re thinking about, that’s okay. We’ll just show you the clip and you can think whatever you want, there we go.

[Shows clip of love scene]

OPRAH:
You can see the rest Friday, in a theatre near you. [Looking into camera]

BRAD:
The movie is 2 hours and 45 minutes, and they had to take that clip.

OPRAH:
Yeah, that’s a very sensual clip actually.

BRAD:
I was happy with that scene actually, in context with the story.

OPRAH:
Yeah, with what actually happens?

BRAD:
Yeah, it’s nice.

OPRAH:
Yes, and were you happy with, uh now you say it took 4 days to get, actually get to the bed…

BRAD:
Right.

OPRAH:
…And all the coverage. How long were you all actually there?

BRAD:
Oh we lost count after.

OPRAH:
You did?

BRAD:
I just remember coming in, in the morning, Claire and I would look at each other and: [making a face] “Oh God”, it’s like eating steak in the morning. Having to kiss over and over…

OPRAH:
Oh really? I wouldn’t talk about steak if I were you…

[Brad and the audience laughs]

OPRAH:
You might end up in Texas on trial, you never know. No, no, no. I’d say: “It’s like eating tuna fish” or whatever.

BRAD:
I wouldn’t say that either.

OPRAH:
Okay, you wouldn’t say that either. Okay we said, when we went to break: what if you weren’t doing this? We were talking about your work and our craft. But if you weren’t doing this, what do you think it would be? What do you think…

BRAD:
As a profession?

OPRAH:
Yes.

BRAD:
Oh I’d do something in the design world, meaning architecture or landscaping, something along that line.

OPRAH:
Would you?

BRAD:
Yeah. I like it!

OPRAH:
Speaking of, cause I hear you love gardening…

BRAD:
Yeah, landscaping

OPRAH:
Landscaping. So you would be a landscape artist.

BRAD:
Yeah, actually...

OPRAH:
Architecture?

BRAD:
Yeah, I like it so much. I don’t know why.

OPRAH:
Okay, when you’re around your own house, do you do some of your own work or do you, you know, consult with other people, and tell them what to do?

BRAD:
Some of both yeah, just play around with it. I like it!

OPRAH:
You do!

BRAD:
I like it! You guys want a good tip for making your yard look bigger? Yea? I’ll give you one. Okay. What you gotta do is first you block off, block off the view of the houses, telephone palls, things you don’t wanna see. And then look out for all the large trees that are of on other people’s yards, and plant smaller ones in your yard. And you get this feeling of perspective, it takes you out and it really makes your yard feel bigger. That’s my tip.

[Audience applauds]

BRAD:
…On the Home Show…

OPRAH:
We will be right back, but first, here is a scene from Meet Joe Black, where his fabulous co-star -you can’t say enough about Anthony Hopkins- tells Brad, to stay away from his daughter!

[Shows a clip from Meet Joe Black]

[commerical break]

OPRAH:
We’d talked to Brad’s Meet Joe Black co-stars uh Claire Forlani, who is amazing, is she not amazing? I’d never heard of her before this, okay Claire, and Oscar winner Anthony Hopkins, have a little something to say on what it was like, working with Brad, here they are.

Clip of Anthony Hopkins talking about Brad, then one of Claire Forlani

Anthony Hopkins:
Hello Oprah! Hello Brad! I just want to say a few things about Brad Pitt. I wrote you a fan letter after Legends Of The Fall, and I wrote you another one for your performance in Seven and 12 Monkeys. I'm just here to say I admire you. Your a wonderful actor, and one of the most pleasant guys I've worked with. Very quiet-like me. We have a few jokes. You make me laugh. We had a good time. It was a great priveledge for me to work with you. Congratulations on your wonderful performance in this movie. See ya. [Winks and gives a thumbs up]

Claire Forlani:
Hi Brad. Your support and your kindness and your talent was an absolute gift to me. And it's something I still hold very very dear and very close to my heart. Your an example with everything you've got and where you are and who you are. Your a real example, and I'm really glad I got to see it up close. [Waves and throws a kiss]

OPRAH:
Yeah, the audience is saying: “So are we too Claire!”

OPRAH:
Yeah, because everybody -you know, I know Kevin Uvane, we share the same agent- is saying that you are so normal for a Hollywood guy. You know that you just really, very, everybody says this about you, you are just really nice, normal guy.

BRAD:
I’m all right.

OPRAH:
That you are all right. Would you say that about yourself?

BRAD:
Yeah, I’m all right, sure, I’m not..., don’t want to…nice…but yeah... make mistakes, sometimes not so nice but yeah normal.

OPRAH:
Real human.

BRAD:
The other day I got in this thing. I was being followed by paparazzi. And not the paparazzi you see, but these stalkers that come up now. And I was trying to get rid of them. I whipped into this ally. I mean whipped into this uh, what I thought was an entrance, turned out to be an exit. And there was a woman coming out, and uh uh I was like: “Move, move, move!” and she sat for a second and then backed up, and I went around and I was looking out and I was trying to get away and then this woman pulls… I hear this: (With a loud voice) “Hello, excuse me! Excuse me!” and this woman just wailed on me, wailed on me! She tore me up. Because I was rude, I was rude, I was absolutely rude, and she was right. Someone’s mom beat me up…

[Audience laughs]

OPRAH:
Really…

BRAD:
Yeah, but I deserved, you know I had it coming… So, I mean, nice guy, not so nice guy, normal guy yeah…

OPRAH:
Uh huh normal guy. Are you anywhere near, halfway, let’s say on a scale of 1 to 10 on a range, uhm of uh Joe Black, are you nearly that romantic?

BRAD:
[pauses, smiles, looks embarrassed, then looks into camera, gives two thumbs up and says..] Romance is cool!

Really.

BRAD:
I like romance.

OPRAH:
Brad, we want more information. No really, are you: flowers. Are you: little notes in the morning? Are you phone calls late at night? Any information you can give.

[Audience laughs]

BRAD:
Oh I … [pauses] I think love should be kept creative and constantly finding things and doing things for each other yeah. I like that. I like it. I like it back too.

OPRAH:
You like it back.

BRAD:
Yeah

OPRAH:
Do you ever see yourself like being married and father?

BRAD:
Sure I do.

OPRAH:
You do.

BRAD:
I look forward to that.

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